Hey Jove!

It absolutely is out of date. WG is now one of our staples, and I love it. I paid 100g for my glyph when only one person had it

My new choice is Swiftmend, Nourish, WG. For some fights I was swapping Nourish with Rejuv (eg Mimiron). If they ever give us tri-specs, I would probably have a tank healing spec, raid healing spec, and feral.. so that I could have tank-oriented glyphs and a set of raid-oriented glyphs for trash and heavy raid damage fights.

Hey Keeva, this Jove used to play a warrior in Epitaph… now playing a druid.

I suspect this post is now out of date with the advent of patch 3.1 and [Glyph of Wild Growth] which in my mind, kicks ass.

Really awesome post =D

As resto class leader in my guild I’ve actually made the SM glyph and the LB glyph required for raiding… but now I’m wondering if that’s the best way to go (Obvi I’d still require the SM one; it’s the LB one that I’m wondering about). Also, I’ve been using the rejuv glyph, which was awesome in 5s and even sometimes 10s, as a sort of “ohcrap” button (or rather, a “tide the tank over” while I press all my other ohcrap buttons) but in 25s I’ve realized it’s pretty much wasted space. On WWS in Naxx 25 it healed for under 1% of my total heals. So I’m going to replace it with the Regrowth Glyph.

Anyway, thanks for the post, really good one =D

PS I came to this site from Phaelia’s site, Resto4life, she’s got your link on her page.

Interesting read. Im a prot warrior, but love to know how my healers work, so I can work with them.

Thanks

I think it's really important that we don't get so attached to particular glyphs that we're not willing to change them around as content changes for us.

I don't think I'll ever drop Swiftmend (because it will always be useful for me), but the other glyphs are wholly subject to the content and my usual assignments & healing style.

If I find in future that I'm barely using Regrowth, then that glyph because less useful and I might sacrifice it for something else. If regen is an issue again in Ulduar, you bet I'll consider swapping it back in for a while (although it will be tough to decide which one to swap out!).

I still have 2 points in Imp Tranquility from back when I was mostly doing heroics. I should probably ditch those as I don't use it very often at all. In the past people would scoff at Imp Tranq because it was bad – but it's another one of those situational things that might be rarely used in raids but used often in heroics.

And the same goes for glyphs – what isn't so great for raiding is often good for 5 mans – and I think that's great. We can actually choose, rather than being forced into taking something because there's no variety or options.

I found Innervate so useful in the beginning, but then I found I was hardly ever using it (at the moment I use it on Sartharion+3, that's about it). I hardly ever even need to pot – I can't remember the last time I had to make mana potions for myself. So Innervate became really situational and a poor choice for a glyph for me.

1 second on Lifebloom sounds trivial but if you're using Lifebloom all the time and Innervate once a week.. it wasn't a hard decision to make once my mana became a non-issue again.

Hehe – another K.

Followed a link from Sydera on Matticus’ blog, and I’m glad I did.

I’m currently running heroics, getting geared for raiding. My current glyphs are Regrowth, Swiftmend and Rebirth. Right now, the Rebirth is invaluable. When you’re only running 5 people, being able to bring one back with enough health/mana is vital.

But, when we move into raiding, I can see that the Rebirth glyph will lose a lot of usefulness, and at the same time, Innervate and Lifebloom will be much more valuable with more targets and longer fights.

Thanks very much for giving us your reasoning in choosing, and your experience in using these. There’s a lot of theory out there, but that’s only so helpful.

After your post, I think I will start with Innervate while I’m still working with low mana regen, then change to Lifebloom as I upgrade gear.

Cheers,
Kriyet of Bladefist

Let the K’s unite!

lol

Thanks!

I am very conscious about seeming too “preachy” so I always try to frame my posts as anecdotes or trains of thought about how I feel about particular subjects, not so much how things are in black and white.

Also, I think someone should do a study to find out the proportion of healers with “K” names.. there seem to be so many!

Excellent write-up! I liked the way you moved through your thinking and why you chose what you did. It's made me realize that my mind was already made up on this front. lol

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To each their own By no means is my post an order to say “this is what you should go get right now.”

It depends entirely on your play style, the level of content you’re at and choose to play, the size of the group, etc.

For example, Glyph of Rejuv would probably be more useful in 5 mans where another healer isn’t going to be there to top someone off before your Rejuv can tick. Regrowth would probably have less value here because you could use Nourish, particularly with the change to Wild Growth.

Swiftmend was always my definite. Regrowth, Lifebloom and Innervate were my “maybes”. I preferred Regrowth and Lifebloom, but my lack of regen at first made me choose Innervate over Lifebloom – and I did very well for myself despite not having that extra second on my Lifebloom. As I explained, I really had no need to have extra long rotations, nor did I ever need to roll hots on more than a couple of people, so it just wasn’t an issue.

When I stepped into Sarth10+3, things changed. I really needed that 1 extra second.

If Regrowth isn’t your style (or others have that covered), that’s okay. It is a really, really good glyph, but if your style and usual assignment doesn’t suit that, you’re not wrong for choosing a different glyph.

At the moment, for me, Glyph of Innervate is a highly situational and very, very rarely needed glyph. On the other hand, I use Regrowth on the tank/s a lot, so it is more valuable for me on a weekly basis.

If you’re hardly ever refreshing Regrowth on a Regrowthed target, then that glyph is highly situational and rarely needed, so it would make sense to choose something that you would get more use out of.

This is exactly the same reasoning why the Rejuv glyph is quite poor for 25mans – because it’s so situational and is barely used. You have to get economy from your glyphs, and if your style and raid makeup means Regrowth is rarely used, then it would be silly to use it, unless of course you’re working on new content and you find you do need those heals (which is what happened with me and the Lifebloom glyph).

There’s no real right or wrong with Glyphs. It’s all about weighing up your group size, content level, play style, and who else is in there with you (if you tend to run with set groups). If you’re not getting the use out of a glyph, don’t take it.

Just don’t ever be so set in your decision that you won’t consider switching things around as you move to different encounters or your gear changes.