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		<title>By: Tree Bark Jacket &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 4pc Tier 10: Rejuv does NOT jump off your target</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tree Bark Jacket &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 4pc Tier 10: Rejuv does NOT jump off your target</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kega</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2009/10/11/tier10-everyone-calm-down-take-a-deep-breath/comment-page-1/#comment-1659</link>
		<dc:creator>Kega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been ghosting here and been an avid reader of this blog for sometime and never really disagreed with anything worth arguing over but I&#039;m sorry to say i agree with Beruthiel about the optimists point of view here.

Here&#039;s the tricky part however;

* Prayer of Mending
    * Instant cast
    * 40 yd range
    * 15% of base mana
    * Places a spell on the target that heals them for X the next time they take damage. When the heal occurs, Prayer of Mending jumps to a raid member within 20 yards. Jumps up to 5 times and lasts 30 sec after each jump. This spell can only be placed on one target at a time.

Then we have chain heal which does something completely different but also uses the word &quot;jump&quot;

    * Chain Heal
    * 2.5 sec cast
    * 40 yd range
    * 19% of base mana
    * Heals the friendly target for X to Y, then jumps to heal additional nearby targets. If cast on a party member, the heal will only jump to other party members. Each jump reduces the effectiveness of the heal by 40%. Heals 3 total targets.

In both cases the spell does exactly what it says in the sense of &quot;jumping&quot;. As for a rejuv that &quot;jumps&quot;, whats the big deal? If it jumps the tank probably doesn&#039;t need it that much OR just like PoM just recast and all is fine with the world. PoM jumps a lot and usually to someone who doesn&#039;t need it so it&#039;s a simple recast and it does it&#039;s job again. 

Yes, I think no matter what it&#039;s a terrible 4 piece bonus and we can all agree on that. I do also think however that it&#039;s not as big of a deal that everyone is making it to be. It&#039;s only a 2% chance so it won&#039;t be hoping around like a small child on crack like the aforementioned PoM. It&#039;s also a free cast so lets say the rejuv really does jump and &quot;disappears&quot; from the target you placed it on. That means it&#039;s now on another target with fresh ticks costing you no mana. You can now recast a new rejuv on your first target and you&#039;re breaking even as far as mana cost is concerned. Most people out there would&#039;ve put a rejuv on that second target anyway so this &quot;jump&quot; hasn&#039;t hurt anyone and has prevented you from switching targets and distracting you for those few seconds. 

Instead of dwelling on the world coming to an end and blizzard being not the brightest crayon in the box (which we ALL already knew), why not learn to use this to our advantage or like Keeva already stated &quot;not care&quot;. If you dont like the set bonus this don&#039;t use it.

Now here&#039;s hoping that Blizzard does realize how crazy this is and comes up with something worthy of a 4 piece bonus! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been ghosting here and been an avid reader of this blog for sometime and never really disagreed with anything worth arguing over but I&#8217;m sorry to say i agree with Beruthiel about the optimists point of view here.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the tricky part however;</p>
<p>* Prayer of Mending<br />
    * Instant cast<br />
    * 40 yd range<br />
    * 15% of base mana<br />
    * Places a spell on the target that heals them for X the next time they take damage. When the heal occurs, Prayer of Mending jumps to a raid member within 20 yards. Jumps up to 5 times and lasts 30 sec after each jump. This spell can only be placed on one target at a time.</p>
<p>Then we have chain heal which does something completely different but also uses the word &#8220;jump&#8221;</p>
<p>    * Chain Heal<br />
    * 2.5 sec cast<br />
    * 40 yd range<br />
    * 19% of base mana<br />
    * Heals the friendly target for X to Y, then jumps to heal additional nearby targets. If cast on a party member, the heal will only jump to other party members. Each jump reduces the effectiveness of the heal by 40%. Heals 3 total targets.</p>
<p>In both cases the spell does exactly what it says in the sense of &#8220;jumping&#8221;. As for a rejuv that &#8220;jumps&#8221;, whats the big deal? If it jumps the tank probably doesn&#8217;t need it that much OR just like PoM just recast and all is fine with the world. PoM jumps a lot and usually to someone who doesn&#8217;t need it so it&#8217;s a simple recast and it does it&#8217;s job again. </p>
<p>Yes, I think no matter what it&#8217;s a terrible 4 piece bonus and we can all agree on that. I do also think however that it&#8217;s not as big of a deal that everyone is making it to be. It&#8217;s only a 2% chance so it won&#8217;t be hoping around like a small child on crack like the aforementioned PoM. It&#8217;s also a free cast so lets say the rejuv really does jump and &#8220;disappears&#8221; from the target you placed it on. That means it&#8217;s now on another target with fresh ticks costing you no mana. You can now recast a new rejuv on your first target and you&#8217;re breaking even as far as mana cost is concerned. Most people out there would&#8217;ve put a rejuv on that second target anyway so this &#8220;jump&#8221; hasn&#8217;t hurt anyone and has prevented you from switching targets and distracting you for those few seconds. </p>
<p>Instead of dwelling on the world coming to an end and blizzard being not the brightest crayon in the box (which we ALL already knew), why not learn to use this to our advantage or like Keeva already stated &#8220;not care&#8221;. If you dont like the set bonus this don&#8217;t use it.</p>
<p>Now here&#8217;s hoping that Blizzard does realize how crazy this is and comes up with something worthy of a 4 piece bonus! <img src='http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cows</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2009/10/11/tier10-everyone-calm-down-take-a-deep-breath/comment-page-1/#comment-1646</link>
		<dc:creator>Cows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest we&#039;re all missing the real issue here.  

HOW UGLY IS THAT HELM!!!!!
.-= Cows´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cowslovescake.com/2009/10/blizzard-back-down-over-rejuv-duration-nerf/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blizzard back down over rejuv duration nerf&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest we&#8217;re all missing the real issue here.  </p>
<p>HOW UGLY IS THAT HELM!!!!!<br />
<span class="cluv"> Cows´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.cowslovescake.com/2009/10/blizzard-back-down-over-rejuv-duration-nerf/" rel="nofollow">Blizzard back down over rejuv duration nerf</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, I just had a funny thought.

What if they do what they did with some of the other bonuses and change it to something entirely different - then we&#039;ll never know what it was meant to be!

 :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, I just had a funny thought.</p>
<p>What if they do what they did with some of the other bonuses and change it to something entirely different &#8211; then we&#8217;ll never know what it was meant to be!</p>
<p> <img src='http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Timmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But that’s good, I have never liked feeling “locked into” sets. I like to wear whatever I want – not feel that I’m hurting myself by taking off a set piece.

So I’m not particularly bothered if it’s weak.&quot;

I feel the same way!  I hate seeing an upgrade and feeling like I shouldn&#039;t be rolling (or bidding my dkp) on it because of a set bonus.  

If the rejuv jump is a &quot;smart jump&quot; like Wild Growth it wouldn&#039;t be too awful.  Still not the most useful thing in the world but kinda neat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But that’s good, I have never liked feeling “locked into” sets. I like to wear whatever I want – not feel that I’m hurting myself by taking off a set piece.</p>
<p>So I’m not particularly bothered if it’s weak.&#8221;</p>
<p>I feel the same way!  I hate seeing an upgrade and feeling like I shouldn&#8217;t be rolling (or bidding my dkp) on it because of a set bonus.  </p>
<p>If the rejuv jump is a &#8220;smart jump&#8221; like Wild Growth it wouldn&#8217;t be too awful.  Still not the most useful thing in the world but kinda neat.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2009/10/11/tier10-everyone-calm-down-take-a-deep-breath/comment-page-1/#comment-1594</link>
		<dc:creator>Beruthiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I read it just fine, as did many others, to mean that it would jump onto someone else in addition.&quot;

Or you are just being overly optimistic, and thinking that there is no way that Blizzard would make a set bonus that horrible.   :smile:   

Which, honestly, is what I think you are basing your analyzsis on.  A lot of your argument (and a lot of other peoples&#039; that I&#039;ve read, to be fair) is &quot;c&#039;mon guys!  Blizzard wouldn&#039;t make a bonus that bad, they want us to use it, it would be stupid if it left your target, nobody would want to use it then, Blizzard won&#039;t do that!&quot;.

I, however, agree with Kae and Cows, if you read the bonus literally, it removes your rejuv when your rejuv &quot;jumps&quot; (which *is* a horrible bonus).  However, I would also hope that Blizzard can&#039;t possibly make a set bonus that bad...but I&#039;m not counting my chickens before they&#039;ve hatched.

So I guess I&#039;m in the wait and see category.  If it&#039;s horrible, I&#039;ll just be foregoing 4 Piece T10  ;-)
.-= Beruthiel´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-resto-tier-10/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Good, The Bad and The Ugly – Resto Tier 10&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I read it just fine, as did many others, to mean that it would jump onto someone else in addition.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or you are just being overly optimistic, and thinking that there is no way that Blizzard would make a set bonus that horrible.   <img src='http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Which, honestly, is what I think you are basing your analyzsis on.  A lot of your argument (and a lot of other peoples&#8217; that I&#8217;ve read, to be fair) is &#8220;c&#8217;mon guys!  Blizzard wouldn&#8217;t make a bonus that bad, they want us to use it, it would be stupid if it left your target, nobody would want to use it then, Blizzard won&#8217;t do that!&#8221;.</p>
<p>I, however, agree with Kae and Cows, if you read the bonus literally, it removes your rejuv when your rejuv &#8220;jumps&#8221; (which *is* a horrible bonus).  However, I would also hope that Blizzard can&#8217;t possibly make a set bonus that bad&#8230;but I&#8217;m not counting my chickens before they&#8217;ve hatched.</p>
<p>So I guess I&#8217;m in the wait and see category.  If it&#8217;s horrible, I&#8217;ll just be foregoing 4 Piece T10  <img src='http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <span class="cluv"> Beruthiel´s last blog ..<a href="http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-resto-tier-10/" rel="nofollow">The Good, The Bad and The Ugly – Resto Tier 10</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2009/10/11/tier10-everyone-calm-down-take-a-deep-breath/comment-page-1/#comment-1593</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In retrospect, my CH analogy sucked  :mrgreen: 


All of the heals that jump are single-hit heals, not heals that land on you and then continue to heal over time. Jump, heal, jump, heal, jump, heal. So there&#039;s nothing really out there to compare it to. CH analogy was bad. Sorry about that.

I suppose then it is natural for some to assume it will be a POM rejuv and go bouncing around like that.

As Kae touched on.. it&#039;s probably better to compare to diseases or poisons that spread to nearby people but don&#039;t remove from the original target.



I really don&#039;t think we have anything to worry about. It would be monumentally stupid to build a set bonus like that, and would have everyone AVOIDING the set, rather than aiming for it. 

A quick reword or disclaimer is all they need to clear it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In retrospect, my CH analogy sucked  <img src='http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>All of the heals that jump are single-hit heals, not heals that land on you and then continue to heal over time. Jump, heal, jump, heal, jump, heal. So there&#8217;s nothing really out there to compare it to. CH analogy was bad. Sorry about that.</p>
<p>I suppose then it is natural for some to assume it will be a POM rejuv and go bouncing around like that.</p>
<p>As Kae touched on.. it&#8217;s probably better to compare to diseases or poisons that spread to nearby people but don&#8217;t remove from the original target.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think we have anything to worry about. It would be monumentally stupid to build a set bonus like that, and would have everyone AVOIDING the set, rather than aiming for it. </p>
<p>A quick reword or disclaimer is all they need to clear it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well, I will have to respectfully disagree.

I read it just fine, as did many others, to mean that it would jump onto someone else in addition.

They may choose to reword slightly to avoid confusion, but honestly, I don&#039;t understand the fuss. Jumping off your target makes no sense, so to me, it is obvious that &quot;jump&quot; means that it will throw an additional hot, not a replacement.

Misreading, no..  misinterpreting, yes. There&#039;s just no way it would be designed to jump away from the target you actually wanted your rejuv on. That would be bonkers. So common sense dictates that &quot;jump&quot; in this case means &quot;splash&quot;, or similar. It&#039;s... obvious.

Bad wording - I suppose it is, for some. I still read it fine. But if the wording is misleading for a lot of people, then they should change it.  

I suggested they change the wording or add a line to clarify that the original rejuv is not consumed/removed. I don&#039;t think the problem is with the word jump, I think that is actually the best word for it, but ideally they should add in a little point on the end that says &quot;The original Rejuvenation is not consumed or removed.&quot; That would solve the problem very simply.

Hopefully they update soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, I will have to respectfully disagree.</p>
<p>I read it just fine, as did many others, to mean that it would jump onto someone else in addition.</p>
<p>They may choose to reword slightly to avoid confusion, but honestly, I don&#8217;t understand the fuss. Jumping off your target makes no sense, so to me, it is obvious that &#8220;jump&#8221; means that it will throw an additional hot, not a replacement.</p>
<p>Misreading, no..  misinterpreting, yes. There&#8217;s just no way it would be designed to jump away from the target you actually wanted your rejuv on. That would be bonkers. So common sense dictates that &#8220;jump&#8221; in this case means &#8220;splash&#8221;, or similar. It&#8217;s&#8230; obvious.</p>
<p>Bad wording &#8211; I suppose it is, for some. I still read it fine. But if the wording is misleading for a lot of people, then they should change it.  </p>
<p>I suggested they change the wording or add a line to clarify that the original rejuv is not consumed/removed. I don&#8217;t think the problem is with the word jump, I think that is actually the best word for it, but ideally they should add in a little point on the end that says &#8220;The original Rejuvenation is not consumed or removed.&#8221; That would solve the problem very simply.</p>
<p>Hopefully they update soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Cows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you already know from my blog I don&#039;t agree with your definition of jump.  The wording of the 4 set right now clearly states that it will jump to another target - this is like how PoM works.  No doubt this is not how the actual set bonus will work because it would be totally retarded - however this is how it is worded.  And since all we have to go on is the wording right now clearly the wording is bad.  People are not misinterpreting the wording, the wording is just wrong.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you already know from my blog I don&#8217;t agree with your definition of jump.  The wording of the 4 set right now clearly states that it will jump to another target &#8211; this is like how PoM works.  No doubt this is not how the actual set bonus will work because it would be totally retarded &#8211; however this is how it is worded.  And since all we have to go on is the wording right now clearly the wording is bad.  People are not misinterpreting the wording, the wording is just wrong.<br />
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		<title>By: lissanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>lissanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tier 2 &amp; tier 8 helms are quite possibly the only druid set helms that I left on.... I remember hiding my helm a lot of the time. The 4-piece bonus lets tank healers instead keep the 2-piece T9 Nourish crit bonus. It won&#039;t hurt to keep 2 of the T9 set pieces.
.-= lissanna´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.restokin.com/2009/10/patch_33_prowl_penguins/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Patch 3.3 – prowl &amp; penguins!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tier 2 &amp; tier 8 helms are quite possibly the only druid set helms that I left on&#8230;. I remember hiding my helm a lot of the time. The 4-piece bonus lets tank healers instead keep the 2-piece T9 Nourish crit bonus. It won&#8217;t hurt to keep 2 of the T9 set pieces.<br />
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