Comments on: Trash in instances

By: Bennjoon

Bennjoon — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:08:02 +0000

Hyjal as a healer made me want to kill myself. The mages and locks loved it but for me it was torture. I liked the trash in the troll instances, it was interesting and quirky and you had to think about what you where doing or you would die.

This is what trash should be like. It should be a ‘mini game’ to make the instances challenging and fun. For example the spiders in ZG and getting drunk. The scouts in ZA etc.

It should be like doing a level before getting to a boss in a platform game. The better you get at the mini game the easier the trash gets thus its rewards people who have been there alot.

By: lissanna

lissanna — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:02:02 +0000

Trash before bosses is only really annoying if there is too much of it. The trash before XT002 isn’t annoying because it’s only 2 pulls. The trash before Onyxia isn’t that bad. The trash before Freya is always annoying (even your 1st time there) because there is too much of it.

By: Kring

Kring — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:41:28 +0000

You forgot warlocks.

They need trash to gather shards which they need for boss fights… It’s really annoying. They changed the shard system and then release TOC. Now we can easily gather shards from trash but there is none.

By: Chimy

Chimy — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:14:37 +0000

I agree with your post, totally.

One point though.. people don’t pug ToC because it’s fun or because there’s no trash. People pug/spam ToC because it’s the only instance that >200 level items drop from every boss, making it easy to gear your toon.

Anyone coming into the game now, or leveling their alt runs flat into the “OMG ur in greens” pug or worse yet, the “OMG ur not doing 2k dps, L2P” pug. Thus, the only thing to do is get decked out immediately, and the only way to do that for free and easily is ToC. Trust me, if they opened a new level 80 (nonheroic) instance that was more like UK or Nexus where the bosses dropped purples and there were no freaking drakes/siege engines/jousts.. ToC would be empty.

By: Juzaba

Juzaba — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:05:57 +0000

I think one of the keys is to get to the first pull quickly. This is especially important for Pugs. Once a group is fighting bosses, they’re likely to stick around. I feel like an early boss helps to get people into the raiding mindset, and trash afterwards can be used as a bit of a break. The hordes of trash between you and the first boss (Naxx!) are such a hurdle.

By: fencepost

fencepost — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:12:47 +0000

Trash for the first few weeks yes, trash after months no! Something like a fast mount would be great or a teleporter to skip past trash that drops off the final boss in a raid and everyone has to have it for it to work.

At least let us skip past flame leviathan once everyone in the raid has downed it once! I really hate that thing