PuG satisfaction
I’m really looking forward to the random, cross-server PuG system.
I love to PuG. Call me crazy, but I really do love it. What I don’t enjoy, though, is having to find groups. Even as a healer, even though it’s easy to “get” groups, because healers are in demand – I still find it tedious to join a group, see that we only have 3 people.. start heading to the instance, realise that the rest of the group thought they’d stay in Dalaran until the group was full.. wait for another person to come to the stone – all while the rest of the group whines for summons. Blah. It’s really what discourages me from grouping with random people – I’m too impatient for everyone else to get their act together.
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Kiiva
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Nice post !
On my server, there is a pug group like yours pulling Anub 25 in TOGC, making this raid 6th of the server after 1 horde guild (who has 2 raids pulling Anub one downing him) and 3 ally guilds. In general, pugs are very good on my server if you know how pick the good players appart from the bad ones.
And I do the streap too with my hunter… During Pilgrim event, I did a heroic CoS with an undergeared tank and a few rerolls from my guild and as I was pulling aggro with my autoshot, I put on my pilgrim dress, take off my shoulders and gloves and boots, and my aggro droped a little… I should keep an old bow in my bags for such occasions…
And I love to pug on my druid too, I don’t have much time to play my baby druid so when logging in, I open LFG and enlist in any heroic, if the guildies don’t need me for the dailie.
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I think TOC is unique because of the lack of trash and high level of gear – so pugs can go run TOC a lot easier than other instances. I really believe that many pugs fail, end prematurely, or don’t even begin because groups don’t want to have to deal with trash. A few wipes on trash mobs and people are ready to call it. Because all of the action in TOC is about fighting bosses and not trash, I think people are willing to stay and work together, rather than just give up.
I hope we see more of these instances (although, as I said earlier in my trash post – not ALL instances – some trash is good) because I do enjoy pugging this high level of content. It’s fun to be in a pug but doing hard modes – and it’s not as if it’s 6 months down the track and we all outgear them – we’re actually doing them as intended. I like that, it’s satisfying.
I hope there are more chances to do this in the future.
Here here, I remember pugging a lot of heroics for my DK a few months ago and I loved it, I could top the damage meters, and feel like I’d achieved something with my gear too. That’s what I like about pugs, I’ve also met some awesome people in pugs, got into a nice little guild back then too. The sense of achievement is much higher than your heroic mode geared friends running you through
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A long-standing joke (that was only half joke) amongst my friends is that, when tanking, if you have rage problems, “TAKE OFF YOUR PANTS!” More recently this just results in replacing tank gear with dps gear, though I do have a friend who tanked pantsless in Molten Core. He argued that the armor was too hot.
What I enjoy doing for a challenge in heroics in WotLK is to have a dps-specced (and geared) “tank” for the instance. It keeps me far less bored than otherwise!
Okay, you’re crazy.
From the other side of the pond, I’m DPS. I hate pugs. I’m the most overpopulated class role (DPS is a commodity, everyone’s always looking for tanks or healers).
For the most part, healers compete with the instance – damage coming in vs. your healing. DPS competes with the instance and the tank. If the tank is subpar, we either aggro the big bad, or we spend half the raid/instance waiting for the aggro bar to catch up. Your adversary is the incoming damage. Our adversary is maximizing DPS AND not overaggro-ing the tank.
You can take your pants off, be scrubby, and still heal enough to win. If the tank strips down (or is badly geared), I get to cast a few spells, walk away, go get a glass of OJ from the fridge, pet the cat, come back, check my RSS feeds, tab back in, wait another minute for aggro to settle, then lay into it (disclaimer: hyperbole is exaggeratey!)
But seriously – you’re a good healer. Even if you have a subpar tank or subpar dps (not that you need more than “marginal” dps for anything but the latest and greatest raids), you can just keep shit alive until attrition sets in and the thing you’re fighting dies from a zillion pinpricks, boredom, or old age. If I walk into a group with a subpar healer (or an “only average” healer and a really bad tank), chances are, no matter what I do, it’s going to be a waste of time.
Also, your pugs are doing better than my guild is (well, was – I stopped raiding)
o.O
Did I miss the post where Kiiva got faction transferred?!?! (Am I just imagining that she used to be a little NE? :))
I too enjoy pugging quite a bit. I am also a bit of an alt-aholic. I don’t have 4 druids, but I have one of each of the 4 healing classes! I do think, however, I might make a troll druid in Cataclysm.
I am looking forward to the cross-server looking for group channel as well. With all my alts, I am always open to pugging anything…because I want my alts to be a little bit respectable too!
Grats on all your PuG success! We do PuG and Alt ToC25 runs, but I don’t know if we could pull off a TotGC run on the horde side of my server!
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I was gonna ask the same question as Beruthiel. I thought Kiiva was a NE and Keeva the moocow.
Congrats on your sucessful PuGs! I only know of one on my server that can do this. Unfortunatley, he’s a real douche.
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I really agree. I love pugging. Not so I can get a pat on the back for doing a good job, but because I love mixing with new people.. and coming together with complete strangers to get something done. I’m always pleasantly surprised when a pug group is quick and smooth (I find myself silently hoping for things to go bad, sometimes, so I have a challenge!).. I enjoy them a lot, good or bad. They’re just refreshing.
Even the horrible ones!
Kae: Sometimes I heal with my chef hat on.. but that’s because I’m a big dope, and I keep my helm hidden. I think I also healed without my gear on once.. because I was in tree form and didn’t realise I was naked. :/ I’m so clever.
Cogfizzle: Shouldn’t you be dancing on a mailbox somewhere?
Beru & Littlebark: whoopsie.. I didn’t really make a big deal about it, but yes, I moved Kiiva to Horde because I found I just couldn’t be away from the Horde any longer, and had to go back to Keeva (for 3.2). Then Kiiva was being neglected.. and I thought she would be a nice backup healer for our guild if she was Horde also. I think I may have posted a one-liner about it ages ago, but the Search is being slow so I can’t see.
I now have 5 druids.
Tauren Keeva on Caelestrasz (80)
Tauren Kiiva on Caelestrasz (80)
Tauren Drucie on Caelestrasz (74)
NE Kiiva back on Mannoroth (70)
NE Caoimhe on Caelestrasz (70)
(for the Horde!
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I don’t mind doing pugs on my healer. But I am kind’ve burnt out by the time I log in with raiding so much to enjoy pugging other things. I love dpsing on my hunter but at times I feel like it’s such a competition to even find a slot in a group on her. SO MANY HUNTERS -cries- It’s crazy how fast I can find pugs as a healer although.
LoL you know what’s funny about you stripping down to heal heroics… I was bored last week and my warlock friend and I decided it would be “fun” to run heroics in our Teir 1. Oh, and you can’t go into tree form with T1 on, or nobody can see how cool you look!! We only did VH, but it was kinda fun
I’m not a fan of PUGing myself, but I do look forward to that cute little pet!
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While the new pug feature might be cool I’m a little worried about the teleport thing. I can see a lot of bad things happening. The tank leaves his tanking gear in the bank. The caster dps leave their mana pots in the bank. That sort of stuff.
Seriously peeps, buy a freaking bag already.
The biggest thing I hate about pugging are afk’ers. “Are we ready to pull?”
“Sure, just let me eat dinner first.” Walk the dogs, go pick up the girlfriend, drop a friend off at the airport…
As for trees running out of mana, I think I can count on one hand the number of times that has happened to me. Ever. Between innervate and mana pots it just should not happen.
Other fun things for bored trees:
dps: Put regrowth and rejuvenation on the tank, pop out of tree form, and start blasting away.
kill the meter: Never stop casting. Heal everyone all the time. Because nothing says bored like 80% overhealing.
turn off grid/healbot: heal the old fashioned way. Click on the toon, cast. I have a fairly standard UI. My healing spells are still on it.
Heh. The people who argue semantics always kill me. “It’s not *really* a pug unless 100% of the people are picked up randomly” Kinda silly. My guild has over 300 members (including alts) and I rarely raid with the same people. Are we ‘more of a pug?’ lol Splitting hairs.
I generally don’t consider guild pugs to be pugs. For example, my last ToC-10 run was short three of our regular raiders for that run. We took three people from our guild. Only one was a main that hadn’t been before. The other two were alts of raiders from another night’s run. It is kinda hard to call that a pug. Especially when you roll right through the place (only 1 wipe on faction champs).
OTOH, picking up an entire group out of trade/general chat or LFG is a pug. It can be really hit and miss. The last heroic pug I healed I only did half of. It seems the tank was ungeared and their healer quit. He wasn’t that hard to heal. I even cast a few hurricanes at the trash.
It’s a lot harder for tanks to get away with being undergeared than healers – I’ll say that much. As a backround to this, I leveled up another warrior (same name, same race and everything) and hit 80 a few days ago. No one ever appreciates a tank with about 21k health; A rogue asked me the other day if I was dual-specced because my health pool was at 23k while putting together a heroic HoS run (he was kicked and promptly replaced). There is no chance on getting into even a VoA or Naxx10 run because of this either.
The only edge that I have is a pocket healer though, so slapping 3 dps into a group with us and going on a run isn’t too rough. The heroics and raids I tank go silky smooth too, but what do I know since I don’t have 35k+ health unbuffed?
@Keeva: There’s a name for what you have… you’re a druidholic. It’s a rare and evil disease. And yours is very advanced my dear… 5 druids all over 65+…
I’ve already reserved the name Keevu for my troll druid in Cataclysm