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	<title>Comments on: Final list of patch 3.3 druid changes</title>
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2009/12/08/final-list-of-patch-3-3-druid-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-1847</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people will still use the old way. Some people really don&#039;t like change - they&#039;ll continue to just ask in Trade for groups, rather than using LFG. 

Certainly the pool might be smaller, but it will still happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people will still use the old way. Some people really don&#8217;t like change &#8211; they&#8217;ll continue to just ask in Trade for groups, rather than using LFG. </p>
<p>Certainly the pool might be smaller, but it will still happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Kring</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2009/12/08/final-list-of-patch-3-3-druid-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-1844</link>
		<dc:creator>Kring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll see how easy it will be to fill groups w/out this system in a few months.

I think it will be impossible to find 5 people the classic way some months down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll see how easy it will be to fill groups w/out this system in a few months.</p>
<p>I think it will be impossible to find 5 people the classic way some months down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2009/12/08/final-list-of-patch-3-3-druid-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-1840</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was under the impression that you *couldn&#039;t* trade BOP items or anything else (other than food etc), which is why they put the loot system in place - because nobody would be able to trade.

If you can trade gear, that helps a little - because then at least you can ask the group beforehand to consider passing cloth upgrades to you, rather than opting to shard them.

&lt;i&gt;If I would have 4 friends to run dungeons together with me I couldn’t care less about this change.&lt;/i&gt;

You don&#039;t need to find 4 friends, you just have to do what many people still do - advertise in General/Trade (etc) to fill your group, without using the LFG tool. It may not be optimal for you, but if there are a few cloth pieces that you want, there&#039;s the option.

Is it particularly difficult to fill groups on your server?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that you *couldn&#8217;t* trade BOP items or anything else (other than food etc), which is why they put the loot system in place &#8211; because nobody would be able to trade.</p>
<p>If you can trade gear, that helps a little &#8211; because then at least you can ask the group beforehand to consider passing cloth upgrades to you, rather than opting to shard them.</p>
<p><i>If I would have 4 friends to run dungeons together with me I couldn’t care less about this change.</i></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to find 4 friends, you just have to do what many people still do &#8211; advertise in General/Trade (etc) to fill your group, without using the LFG tool. It may not be optimal for you, but if there are a few cloth pieces that you want, there&#8217;s the option.</p>
<p>Is it particularly difficult to fill groups on your server?<br />
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		<title>By: Kring</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2009/12/08/final-list-of-patch-3-3-druid-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-1839</link>
		<dc:creator>Kring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; It’s only the case when you use the cross-server LFG system.

It&#039;s the case as soon as you have random members in your group.
If you go with 4 friends, that&#039;s no problem. Otherwise this is enforced.

&gt; and in cross-server groups, you cannot trade items.

You can trade BoP items that dropped and conjured items (food, HS).
But that doesn&#039;t help if the item is auto-sharded. Or if the winner
is retarded.

&gt; If there’s a cloth item that you want from a particular dungeon,
&gt; you’ll either need to make the group aware of it to begin with, and
&gt; ask them if they will pass to you (providing there’s not a cloth
&gt; wearer who wants it, of course),

Or you could cure cancer. Would probably be easier anyway... -.-

&gt; or you’ll need to simply do dungeons with people from your own
&gt; server, the traditional way – which *will* allow you to roll Need on
&gt; cloth, and *will* allow people to trade you items if you say, “wait,
&gt; that’s an upgrade for me – do you mind if I take it?”

If I would have 4 friends to run dungeons together with me I couldn&#039;t
care less about this change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; It’s only the case when you use the cross-server LFG system.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the case as soon as you have random members in your group.<br />
If you go with 4 friends, that&#8217;s no problem. Otherwise this is enforced.</p>
<p>&gt; and in cross-server groups, you cannot trade items.</p>
<p>You can trade BoP items that dropped and conjured items (food, HS).<br />
But that doesn&#8217;t help if the item is auto-sharded. Or if the winner<br />
is retarded.</p>
<p>&gt; If there’s a cloth item that you want from a particular dungeon,<br />
&gt; you’ll either need to make the group aware of it to begin with, and<br />
&gt; ask them if they will pass to you (providing there’s not a cloth<br />
&gt; wearer who wants it, of course),</p>
<p>Or you could cure cancer. Would probably be easier anyway&#8230; -.-</p>
<p>&gt; or you’ll need to simply do dungeons with people from your own<br />
&gt; server, the traditional way – which *will* allow you to roll Need on<br />
&gt; cloth, and *will* allow people to trade you items if you say, “wait,<br />
&gt; that’s an upgrade for me – do you mind if I take it?”</p>
<p>If I would have 4 friends to run dungeons together with me I couldn&#8217;t<br />
care less about this change.</p>
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s only the case when you use the cross-server LFG system.

When in this system, you are restricted from rolling Need on armor that is outside your normal armor type. You can still roll Greed, but of course the risk is that someone else will win the item (or it will be auto-DEd), and in cross-server groups, you cannot trade items.

If there&#039;s a cloth item that you want from a particular dungeon, you&#039;ll either need to make the group aware of it to begin with, and ask them if they will pass to you (providing there&#039;s not a cloth wearer who wants it, of course), or you&#039;ll need to simply do dungeons with people from your own server, the traditional way - which *will* allow you to roll Need on cloth, and *will* allow people to trade you items if you say, &quot;wait, that&#039;s an upgrade for me - do you mind if I take it?&quot;


It&#039;s still kinda crummy - but it&#039;s not the end of the world. It only applies for cross-server groups, not all groups. 



Morphingtime: it depends on how low your haste is, I suppose. Some druids are choosing to go with full CF and no gems. Others are taking CF and using sp/haste gems to top up their haste. Some are skipping CF and putting in full haste gems. 

Personally, I may use some sp/haste gems in yellow slots.. but I&#039;m not going to worry about it too much just yet. I&#039;ll wait and see if I can grab a couple more haste items, then consider my gems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only the case when you use the cross-server LFG system.</p>
<p>When in this system, you are restricted from rolling Need on armor that is outside your normal armor type. You can still roll Greed, but of course the risk is that someone else will win the item (or it will be auto-DEd), and in cross-server groups, you cannot trade items.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s a cloth item that you want from a particular dungeon, you&#8217;ll either need to make the group aware of it to begin with, and ask them if they will pass to you (providing there&#8217;s not a cloth wearer who wants it, of course), or you&#8217;ll need to simply do dungeons with people from your own server, the traditional way &#8211; which *will* allow you to roll Need on cloth, and *will* allow people to trade you items if you say, &#8220;wait, that&#8217;s an upgrade for me &#8211; do you mind if I take it?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still kinda crummy &#8211; but it&#8217;s not the end of the world. It only applies for cross-server groups, not all groups. </p>
<p>Morphingtime: it depends on how low your haste is, I suppose. Some druids are choosing to go with full CF and no gems. Others are taking CF and using sp/haste gems to top up their haste. Some are skipping CF and putting in full haste gems. </p>
<p>Personally, I may use some sp/haste gems in yellow slots.. but I&#8217;m not going to worry about it too much just yet. I&#8217;ll wait and see if I can grab a couple more haste items, then consider my gems.</p>
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		<title>By: Littlebark</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2009/12/08/final-list-of-patch-3-3-druid-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-1837</link>
		<dc:creator>Littlebark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh what? I must have missed that in the patch notes! No cloth for us? Booo
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh what? I must have missed that in the patch notes! No cloth for us? Booo<br />
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		<title>By: Morphingtime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morphingtime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you think druids should gem spellpower/haste or straight haste for yellow gem slots</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you think druids should gem spellpower/haste or straight haste for yellow gem slots</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
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		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah that is going to be incredibly frustrating for leveling druids, since early on almost all of the gear with healing stats is cloth :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah that is going to be incredibly frustrating for leveling druids, since early on almost all of the gear with healing stats is cloth <img src='http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kring</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2009/12/08/final-list-of-patch-3-3-druid-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-1833</link>
		<dc:creator>Kring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot the most important one.

In 5 man dungeons formed with the new LFG tool, druids will no longer be allowed to roll need on cloth gear.

Druids will be allowed to roll greed on cloth as every other class. If no one in the group rolls need, the item is rolled for between all the people who rolled greed AND who rolled disenchant. If someone wins an item with disenchant, it is automatically disenchanted.

Good luck getting a cloth upgrade for resto or moonkin. It will most of the time be auto-sharded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot the most important one.</p>
<p>In 5 man dungeons formed with the new LFG tool, druids will no longer be allowed to roll need on cloth gear.</p>
<p>Druids will be allowed to roll greed on cloth as every other class. If no one in the group rolls need, the item is rolled for between all the people who rolled greed AND who rolled disenchant. If someone wins an item with disenchant, it is automatically disenchanted.</p>
<p>Good luck getting a cloth upgrade for resto or moonkin. It will most of the time be auto-sharded.</p>
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