Healers and Killing Blows
I really have to say that I am unimpressed by yet another holiday achievement demonstrating a lack of foresight on the part of the developers.
- “Just go to Ulduar and use the seige engines for 1000 charms a minute!”
- “QQ, just go do some daily quests, stop whining.”
- “It’s always going to be harder for a non-DPS class to DPS mobs, durr” (wow..)
- “You have an AOE spell, try using it.”
- “Don’t you have a dual spec? Go DPS and quit crying.”
- “onoez, you have to do some WORK to get an achievement? Boohoo” (whoooooooosh, there goes the issue at hand, sailing right over the top of your head…)
This argument is so stupid it’s mind boggling.
DPS: Do what you always do, get lots of holiday items.
Tank: Do what you always do, get some holiday items.
Healer: Do what you always do, get jack squat. Instead find some way to game the system and listen to idiots on the forums claim this is somehow logical and balanced, not to mention “Working as intended”.
Christ, it’s not like the imbalance isn’t ludicrously obvious.
(my emphasis)
If i were a DPS by the end of the two weeks I would have all i needed by doing what I normally do, but being a healer means I have to go out of my way to do dailies that are boring to me and grind mobs that take twice as long for me to kill as compared to a DPS. It truly is the principle of the matter for me.
Spot on.
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Here’s another one. You need the rose from the first boss of UK, you can kill him on normal.
This boss has this stupid ice block thing which does a ton of damage which means that you’re dead if the block runs one full duration. If you try to solo him you have to kill him before he casts the block the second time. The first can be removed with the PvP trinket (which is still not available through PvE).
I was unable to solo him with my DK tank not with my Pally tank. And most DPS will fail, too.
You see a lot of “looking for a healer for 2 runs UK” in /trade from tanks. Here’s your revenge. You can get the rose easier than dps because no one wants to take a useless dps aboard if heal+tank can do it themself in 2 runs.
And in a week we’ll have the lunar festival. Where you have to visit about 6 dungeons. For DPS, that’s 90 minutes wait time.
And the event boss sucks. How is it possible that I can keep my pet alive in every raid encounter but not during a stupid event boss? Now THAT’s annoying.
This. All of it.
I already have the achievement too, but I want to give a charm bracelet to Velen, my Prophet o’ Awesome. I had spent all last night queueing heroic after heroic. I kept seeing DPS getting Charms all over the place and I look in my bag at the end of the night… I have three. Because I HAPPENED to throw a DoT on a mob when I had time (and to test my theory about how to get them.)
As you said – not a big deal. But it’s the principle of the thing.
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that’s why I love dualspecs – because I can be both a healer & a DPS.
When I was full-time healing, I could still solo.
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I was also incredibly irritated by this, to which my guildies were quite amused. My own rant incoming.
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Healers get the shaft: not news. Try getting the “Wrecking Ball” achievement as a healer. The best I have ever done–and I’ve done quite a lot of BGs–is 12 killing blows in a particularly drawn-out Eye of the Storm.
And that took the alignment of the planets to accomplish.
Also, it would be stupidly easy for them to change it to something fairer: whoever has the round-robin looting rights to the slain monster gets the chance to create a charm.
Not only would this be fair, it would fix the issue of “hey lets go to ulduar and farm 200+ tokens in <10 minutes" which is a bit of an exploit, really.
I guess this is something for DPS to do while they are waiting the the LFG queue.
But then who will be blamed for the DPS not getting their ridiculously easy charms? The healers, for letting them die while the healer gets jack squat.
I was pretty upset while healing some normal instances to get the rose bouquet with some guildies to see that everyone but me was getting tons of Charms. I was able to nab a few while DPSing in between Rejuvs, but still, I came out with three or four vs. tens that the others would collect.
And then, another guildie, also a healer, pointed out that you can get the Charms from doing the Icecrown bombing dailies. No need to find someone to make a raid with you to head into Ulduar. No need to swap to boomkin spec and grind mobs or dailies on the ground (or, Earthmother forbid, try to do it in tree spec). I just flew my feathery butt out to the goblins, asked for a ride and bombed Scourge and gargoyles until I had a bag full of Charms. And the goblins gave me gold for doing it, too!
No, it doesn’t really mitigate the fact that Blizzard made it much easier for DPS classes to get this done, nor does it mitigate the red-headed-stepchild feeling that many healers likely have at the mechanic behind it, but is another alternative for getting the holiday items and achievements that doesn’t require a loophole or heal-spec grinding.
I was trying to explain this to a m8 in guild last night to no avail. He simply couldn’t see where I was coming from because my secondary spec is Boomchicken. “I don’t see the big deal, just go lazer chicken and grind them?”
We rolled healers because we like to HEAL. :\
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Just go to Ice Crown like your going to do the Battle before the Citadel daily, mount, and kill all the non elite skeletons near the Commanders. Healer or not. let the mount do the work (just another way similar to Uld but you dont need to be in a raid grp).
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i think for the duration of this holiday, healers should be too busy to be available for healing. and if asked why, say it takes a long time for us to get enough love charms.
I agree with you guys it sucks. I grabbed my fiancee who plays a prot pally and we did our dailies together – she collected them all and we split them up.
We both have the achievement so we are only in it for the pet and farming the mount
Oh I am SO glad to be done with holiday events. I try helping others where possible like parking my Dwarf hunter in Dalaran and clicking debuffs off … why? Because I feel your pain !
I do have to say the holiday revamp is ALOT better than last year – ALOT better … holy shit I just realised my druid has been 80 for a year
I completely agree, it is a stupid design.
As stupid as when I tried to do the Christmas achievement on my baby druid who had just hit 80. Turns out that the gnome costume disappears when you shapeshift… *sigh*
Go to the Shadow Vault in Icecrown and get the daily quest “Shoot ‘Em Up” from The Leaper. Fly over, get into the gun, and shoot away at the Jotunheim Proto-Drakes. I got about 50 in less than 20 mins. Just be sure to have the quest otherwise you can’t get into the gun.
I completely agree!
As of today they changed how you get charms, I got some as I was healing heroics (not many, but some), and they hotfixed the ulduar method.