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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2010/03/01/the-evolution-of-loot-systems-across-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-2506</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not going to be a problem in the future, apparently in patch 3.3.3 it is going to force an automatic greed roll on the orbs.

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12680047996&amp;sid=1&amp;pageNo=2#36</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not going to be a problem in the future, apparently in patch 3.3.3 it is going to force an automatic greed roll on the orbs.</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12680047996&amp;sid=1&amp;pageNo=2#36" rel="nofollow">http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12680047996&amp;sid=1&amp;pageNo=2#36</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kriyet</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2010/03/01/the-evolution-of-loot-systems-across-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-2483</link>
		<dc:creator>Kriyet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a better macro is &quot;Do you guys want to GREED or NEED the orbs?&quot;

It bugs me when people show up in a PUG and take it on themselves to announce how &#039;we&#039; are going to handle rolls. They may be fine people just trying to avoid drama, but my first impression was a loudmouth jerk bossing me around. 

Asking at the beginning accomplishes the same thing - getting people to handle the loot with similar expectations. And it lets the group decide if that&#039;s Greed or Need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a better macro is &#8220;Do you guys want to GREED or NEED the orbs?&#8221;</p>
<p>It bugs me when people show up in a PUG and take it on themselves to announce how &#8216;we&#8217; are going to handle rolls. They may be fine people just trying to avoid drama, but my first impression was a loudmouth jerk bossing me around. </p>
<p>Asking at the beginning accomplishes the same thing &#8211; getting people to handle the loot with similar expectations. And it lets the group decide if that&#8217;s Greed or Need.</p>
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		<title>By: Ytotem</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2010/03/01/the-evolution-of-loot-systems-across-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-2460</link>
		<dc:creator>Ytotem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got tired of the drama and I made a macro.

/p I hate loot drama!! Roll **NEED** on the damned orb.


end of problem. I spam it just before the last boss on any of the toons I&#039;m running a heroic on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got tired of the drama and I made a macro.</p>
<p>/p I hate loot drama!! Roll **NEED** on the damned orb.</p>
<p>end of problem. I spam it just before the last boss on any of the toons I&#8217;m running a heroic on.</p>
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		<title>By: Averna</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2010/03/01/the-evolution-of-loot-systems-across-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-2459</link>
		<dc:creator>Averna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my group, everyone greeds. My particular server used to need BoE greens all the time... then when random dungeon groups went cross-server, Bonechewer found out that EVERYONE ELSE greeds. However, what happened next was interesting: Bonechewer conformed to everyone else, rather than the other way around. Now, everyone greeds. But I usually wait for one or two people to choose before I click need or greed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my group, everyone greeds. My particular server used to need BoE greens all the time&#8230; then when random dungeon groups went cross-server, Bonechewer found out that EVERYONE ELSE greeds. However, what happened next was interesting: Bonechewer conformed to everyone else, rather than the other way around. Now, everyone greeds. But I usually wait for one or two people to choose before I click need or greed.<br />
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		<title>By: Adeanna</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2010/03/01/the-evolution-of-loot-systems-across-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-2456</link>
		<dc:creator>Adeanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve been passing on the orbs as i have no use for them. but hearing how you can use them to lotuses soon is changing my mind and i&#039;ll roll on them in the future.

and i think this is why i prefer to run with guildies, no drama about loot. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve been passing on the orbs as i have no use for them. but hearing how you can use them to lotuses soon is changing my mind and i&#8217;ll roll on them in the future.</p>
<p>and i think this is why i prefer to run with guildies, no drama about loot. <img src='http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Oakensoul</title>
		<link>http://treebarkjacket.com/2010/03/01/the-evolution-of-loot-systems-across-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-2451</link>
		<dc:creator>Oakensoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chimy:

There&#039;s already a blacklisting app - all you need to do is ignore the person from the right-click menu when clicking on their name in a chatlog, or type &quot;/ignore charactername-realmname&quot; and the LFD tool will never group you with that person again.

So type &quot;/ignore dvdat-zuluhed&quot; and you&#039;ll be good to go.

It&#039;s a really awesome feature, best thing since stacking clams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chimy:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s already a blacklisting app &#8211; all you need to do is ignore the person from the right-click menu when clicking on their name in a chatlog, or type &#8220;/ignore charactername-realmname&#8221; and the LFD tool will never group you with that person again.</p>
<p>So type &#8220;/ignore dvdat-zuluhed&#8221; and you&#8217;ll be good to go.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a really awesome feature, best thing since stacking clams.</p>
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		<title>By: alexis</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My battlegroup (Whirlwind) we always greed. And 99.99999999999999% of the time you can tell it&#039;s purposeful orb ninjaing. I will usually wait a couple seconds and check if everyone is greeding to hit greed. And if they wait longer than me and still manage to &quot;accidentally&quot; Need I call BS.

I&#039;ve had someone wait till RIGHT before the timer was about to expire before rolling need, and when I called him out on it say he thought &quot;everyone was rolling need&quot;

&quot;Um, except that you were the LAST person to roll.&quot;

.../drops group and disappears into the night</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My battlegroup (Whirlwind) we always greed. And 99.99999999999999% of the time you can tell it&#8217;s purposeful orb ninjaing. I will usually wait a couple seconds and check if everyone is greeding to hit greed. And if they wait longer than me and still manage to &#8220;accidentally&#8221; Need I call BS.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had someone wait till RIGHT before the timer was about to expire before rolling need, and when I called him out on it say he thought &#8220;everyone was rolling need&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Um, except that you were the LAST person to roll.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;/drops group and disappears into the night</p>
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		<title>By: Ooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my battlegroup greeds for the most part.

You can almost immediately tell who&#039;s a ninja and who&#039;s just used to needing stuff.  You can tell by when and how they roll, if it&#039;s immediate and without pause it&#039;s usually not malicious, if they wait 30 seconds for everybody else to hit greed first they&#039;re actively trying to ninja them.

I just wait till everybody else has hit need or greed and respond accordingly.  If someone hits need I also hit need (rare), but if they all hit greed (sometimes reluctantly for some as they don&#039;t &quot;want&quot; to get caught being a ninja) I hit greed and be done with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my battlegroup greeds for the most part.</p>
<p>You can almost immediately tell who&#8217;s a ninja and who&#8217;s just used to needing stuff.  You can tell by when and how they roll, if it&#8217;s immediate and without pause it&#8217;s usually not malicious, if they wait 30 seconds for everybody else to hit greed first they&#8217;re actively trying to ninja them.</p>
<p>I just wait till everybody else has hit need or greed and respond accordingly.  If someone hits need I also hit need (rare), but if they all hit greed (sometimes reluctantly for some as they don&#8217;t &#8220;want&#8221; to get caught being a ninja) I hit greed and be done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: theGnomeDruid</title>
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		<dc:creator>theGnomeDruid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for posting this. as one of the frothers i freely admit I hadn&#039;t thought about the standard being different on servers other than my own. time for an attitude adjustment on my part.

Like others, I have taken to hitting a macro (I usually do it right after the 2nd to last boss) that announces my intent to roll need. So far, it&#039;s working fairly well.

Insightful as always Keeva, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for posting this. as one of the frothers i freely admit I hadn&#8217;t thought about the standard being different on servers other than my own. time for an attitude adjustment on my part.</p>
<p>Like others, I have taken to hitting a macro (I usually do it right after the 2nd to last boss) that announces my intent to roll need. So far, it&#8217;s working fairly well.</p>
<p>Insightful as always Keeva, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeBailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeBailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Medicina&#039;s way, announcing that all should roll NEED is the best way to handle Frozen Orbs.

This implies that you will roll NEED thus giving the other members fair warning.  They will in turn roll NEED as well.

I usually announce this as well, at least when I&#039;m tanking/party leader and there have been no complaints and everyone rolled NEED.

Last night I went into a group on an alt, did not announce &#039;ROLL NEED&#039;.  At the end of the run someone rolled GREED, others (including me) follow suit.  One person rolled NEED, got the orb and left group.

Live and learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Medicina&#8217;s way, announcing that all should roll NEED is the best way to handle Frozen Orbs.</p>
<p>This implies that you will roll NEED thus giving the other members fair warning.  They will in turn roll NEED as well.</p>
<p>I usually announce this as well, at least when I&#8217;m tanking/party leader and there have been no complaints and everyone rolled NEED.</p>
<p>Last night I went into a group on an alt, did not announce &#8216;ROLL NEED&#8217;.  At the end of the run someone rolled GREED, others (including me) follow suit.  One person rolled NEED, got the orb and left group.</p>
<p>Live and learn.</p>
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