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	<title>Comments on: Casual Kingslayer</title>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beruthiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We went with this philosophy back during TBC and haven&#039;t looked back.  We still get everything killed...just on our schedule and not someone elses.

Anytime I stress over progress, I just have to look at other guilds that are quite literally bleeding players and be thankful that it isn&#039;t us.  I&#039;d much rather move a bit slower and keep the guild engaged and happy than be number one and a revovling door for raiders.

I think there&#039;s a lot to be said for just keeping your head down and doing your own thing  :mrgreen: 

Kudos to you guys for sticking through it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We went with this philosophy back during TBC and haven&#8217;t looked back.  We still get everything killed&#8230;just on our schedule and not someone elses.</p>
<p>Anytime I stress over progress, I just have to look at other guilds that are quite literally bleeding players and be thankful that it isn&#8217;t us.  I&#8217;d much rather move a bit slower and keep the guild engaged and happy than be number one and a revovling door for raiders.</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s a lot to be said for just keeping your head down and doing your own thing  <img src='http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Kudos to you guys for sticking through it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jasyla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasyla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the ICC model of raiding too. A gradual buffing of players is much preferable to one giant nerf to the whole instance to make it more accessible.  My guild was also working on Felmyst in BC when the player buffs/boss nerfs hit and it turned what would have been a big accomplishment for us into a joke. That was disappointing to say the least. 

On what you said about burn out...people need to think hard about exactly how much time they&#039;re willing to put into raiding, especially the learning part of it, when they join a raiding guild (or make the schedule for one). I&#039;m a weekend raider, my guild raids twice a week (8-9 hours total) and it is the perfect amount of time. We spend about equal time killing farm content and learning new fights. That&#039;s ideal for me. Although I sometimes get burnt out with the game in general, there are very few times where I think &quot;ugh, I really don&#039;t want to raid tonight&quot;. When I think about guilds who raid 15 or 20 hours a week my mind boggles. In my mind, there&#039;s just not enough content to spread over that amount of time in raids. No wonder people get burned out, spending 75% of their time or more learning (i.e. wiping).  On the other side, I&#039;m sure there are people who are more than willing to put in that amount of time to stay competitive in the guild rankings. I think a lot of attrition happens when there is a disconnect between what the raiders want and what the schedule demands. Good on you for cutting back on raid nights temporarily to avoid this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the ICC model of raiding too. A gradual buffing of players is much preferable to one giant nerf to the whole instance to make it more accessible.  My guild was also working on Felmyst in BC when the player buffs/boss nerfs hit and it turned what would have been a big accomplishment for us into a joke. That was disappointing to say the least. </p>
<p>On what you said about burn out&#8230;people need to think hard about exactly how much time they&#8217;re willing to put into raiding, especially the learning part of it, when they join a raiding guild (or make the schedule for one). I&#8217;m a weekend raider, my guild raids twice a week (8-9 hours total) and it is the perfect amount of time. We spend about equal time killing farm content and learning new fights. That&#8217;s ideal for me. Although I sometimes get burnt out with the game in general, there are very few times where I think &#8220;ugh, I really don&#8217;t want to raid tonight&#8221;. When I think about guilds who raid 15 or 20 hours a week my mind boggles. In my mind, there&#8217;s just not enough content to spread over that amount of time in raids. No wonder people get burned out, spending 75% of their time or more learning (i.e. wiping).  On the other side, I&#8217;m sure there are people who are more than willing to put in that amount of time to stay competitive in the guild rankings. I think a lot of attrition happens when there is a disconnect between what the raiders want and what the schedule demands. Good on you for cutting back on raid nights temporarily to avoid this.<br />
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		<title>By: Moonra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moonra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the QQ regarding this buff has gotten a bit to far. It seems people forget that achievements have a date, hardcore guilds are still clearing content much faster and some guilds, even with the buff, won&#039;t do all the heroic content. But at least everyone gets a shot at the normal, so you can feel a part of the lore, even when you&#039;re not a wow wizard.

I didn&#039;t raid in TBC so I can&#039;t say that I know how the nerf affected raiding but I do also like the way they are using this buff now, 5% extra does a lot but not in a way that you can forget/ignore encounter mechanics. You get some help but still have to bring you &#039;A&#039; game to do it.

And yes, burnouts are delayed by this as well, it can be a relief if you know that you have 5% more next week when you&#039;re wiping at 5-10%. Burnouts will still happen, but not as fast I&#039;d say.

Its nice to have as a Guild since summer time does kill sign ups a bit and recruiting less skilled players is sometimes necessary to keep the raiding up. The buff then allows us to keep hitting bosses we want, even if the group isn&#039;t as good as it was a few months ago.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the QQ regarding this buff has gotten a bit to far. It seems people forget that achievements have a date, hardcore guilds are still clearing content much faster and some guilds, even with the buff, won&#8217;t do all the heroic content. But at least everyone gets a shot at the normal, so you can feel a part of the lore, even when you&#8217;re not a wow wizard.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t raid in TBC so I can&#8217;t say that I know how the nerf affected raiding but I do also like the way they are using this buff now, 5% extra does a lot but not in a way that you can forget/ignore encounter mechanics. You get some help but still have to bring you &#8216;A&#8217; game to do it.</p>
<p>And yes, burnouts are delayed by this as well, it can be a relief if you know that you have 5% more next week when you&#8217;re wiping at 5-10%. Burnouts will still happen, but not as fast I&#8217;d say.</p>
<p>Its nice to have as a Guild since summer time does kill sign ups a bit and recruiting less skilled players is sometimes necessary to keep the raiding up. The buff then allows us to keep hitting bosses we want, even if the group isn&#8217;t as good as it was a few months ago.<br />
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