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	<title>Comments on: Cataclysm: the brand spankin&#8217; new 31pt talent trees</title>
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		<title>By: TheTree</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheTree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look at some of the things they want to do and feel like shouting

YOU CANT DO THAT NOOB!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look at some of the things they want to do and feel like shouting</p>
<p>YOU CANT DO THAT NOOB!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 05:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There’s no Moonkin in the balance tree. Does that mean it’s also free at level 10? &quot;

As someoe who still hasn&#039;t made peace with the tree changes I was cursing when I didn&#039;t see moonkin form in the tree thinking they had axed it .. then I saw the owlkin frenzy thing I don&#039;t think I have ever used and figured it meant moonkin would be trainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There’s no Moonkin in the balance tree. Does that mean it’s also free at level 10? &#8221;</p>
<p>As someoe who still hasn&#8217;t made peace with the tree changes I was cursing when I didn&#8217;t see moonkin form in the tree thinking they had axed it .. then I saw the owlkin frenzy thing I don&#8217;t think I have ever used and figured it meant moonkin would be trainable.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Blizz said what will happen with dual-spec&#039;s?

I mean, you could easily pop your big CD&#039;s then switch to balance spec until the CD&#039;s come back...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Blizz said what will happen with dual-spec&#8217;s?</p>
<p>I mean, you could easily pop your big CD&#8217;s then switch to balance spec until the CD&#8217;s come back&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alamein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alamein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The talents for druids are clearly raw at the moment. I&#039;d look at these as no more than hints for now.

In &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25968569991/paladin-changes-build-12479/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one Paladin thread&lt;/A&gt; GC starts out with &quot;These are old talents. This is not the paladin revamp that we said was coming. Sorry, you&#039;ll just have to wait a little bit longer.&quot; Then he follows that with &quot;Druids aren&#039;t as far along as paladins, so I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll hear now how they are always last. :)&quot; In other words, druids have a long way to go yet.

Also, I saw a comment to the effect that they&#039;re still deciding whether the level 10 Balance skill will be Moonkin form or Starsurge. I think I&#039;d prefer Starsurge, which makes Moonkin form feel like a real boost when you get to 31 points. Both would be pretty useful for leveling, though.

Based on the rate that things are going, I&#039;d guess it&#039;s going to be a few weeks yet before there&#039;s a lot of work on Druids. And even then I think Feral may have more challenges than Balance/Resto. So I&#039;m setting my alarm clock for August -- no point in working myself into an Owlkin frenzy for a good while yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The talents for druids are clearly raw at the moment. I&#8217;d look at these as no more than hints for now.</p>
<p>In <a HREF="http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25968569991/paladin-changes-build-12479/" rel="nofollow">one Paladin thread</a> GC starts out with &#8220;These are old talents. This is not the paladin revamp that we said was coming. Sorry, you&#8217;ll just have to wait a little bit longer.&#8221; Then he follows that with &#8220;Druids aren&#8217;t as far along as paladins, so I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll hear now how they are always last. :)&#8221; In other words, druids have a long way to go yet.</p>
<p>Also, I saw a comment to the effect that they&#8217;re still deciding whether the level 10 Balance skill will be Moonkin form or Starsurge. I think I&#8217;d prefer Starsurge, which makes Moonkin form feel like a real boost when you get to 31 points. Both would be pretty useful for leveling, though.</p>
<p>Based on the rate that things are going, I&#8217;d guess it&#8217;s going to be a few weeks yet before there&#8217;s a lot of work on Druids. And even then I think Feral may have more challenges than Balance/Resto. So I&#8217;m setting my alarm clock for August &#8212; no point in working myself into an Owlkin frenzy for a good while yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only worry is that they are working on such an important aspect of the game so late in the Cataclysm development. I have a bad feeling that a lot of the classes will be totally broken at release. I really hope that the beta testers really pay attention and give great feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only worry is that they are working on such an important aspect of the game so late in the Cataclysm development. I have a bad feeling that a lot of the classes will be totally broken at release. I really hope that the beta testers really pay attention and give great feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Moonra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moonra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>small thing I&#039;d like to add

-Wild Growth-

(usual blabla) but then...

(while in ToL) Wild Growth hits 2 additional targets

guess we know one thing that ToL will do
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>small thing I&#8217;d like to add</p>
<p>-Wild Growth-</p>
<p>(usual blabla) but then&#8230;</p>
<p>(while in ToL) Wild Growth hits 2 additional targets</p>
<p>guess we know one thing that ToL will do<br />
<span class="cluv"> Moonra´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Restodude/~3/TjwIsSp8m3U/being-healer-good-and-bad.html" rel="nofollow">Being a Healer- the Good and the Bad-</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Araduhr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Araduhr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Urgh... WTB more develop time from blizz on those tree... 

These trees most be considered more than preliminary. It&#039;s just a sketch, and sort of a joke to put them out there. I&#039;m not going to dwell to much on the reasoning to put SO unfinnished tres out to public eyes, that is now done.

But as things are looking.. Where is the diversety for restos? where are my talents?
the talents I am really sad to see go is:
Gift of the Earthmother- That just looked really cool as a talent in the first beta trees.
Natures splendor- I like long hots, gives me more time to do other stuff
Naturalist- Since HT was going to be out long, big expensive heal, is haste the only way to make it faster? sigh, I guess it will be natures swiftness+HT for another half expansion.
I am also sad to see the passive we had before go. Specificly the hot&#039;s heal more on wounded targets. That was just a good mechanic, but I guess is was a little OP.

don&#039;t get me started on ToL.... :(




Had a quick look for my other char, a prot warrior, same thing.. The only place I could find where there were a bit to play around with was after I had spent 31 points in prot and could move to other trees.. sigh... 
More info and more development please! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Urgh&#8230; WTB more develop time from blizz on those tree&#8230; </p>
<p>These trees most be considered more than preliminary. It&#8217;s just a sketch, and sort of a joke to put them out there. I&#8217;m not going to dwell to much on the reasoning to put SO unfinnished tres out to public eyes, that is now done.</p>
<p>But as things are looking.. Where is the diversety for restos? where are my talents?<br />
the talents I am really sad to see go is:<br />
Gift of the Earthmother- That just looked really cool as a talent in the first beta trees.<br />
Natures splendor- I like long hots, gives me more time to do other stuff<br />
Naturalist- Since HT was going to be out long, big expensive heal, is haste the only way to make it faster? sigh, I guess it will be natures swiftness+HT for another half expansion.<br />
I am also sad to see the passive we had before go. Specificly the hot&#8217;s heal more on wounded targets. That was just a good mechanic, but I guess is was a little OP.</p>
<p>don&#8217;t get me started on ToL&#8230;. <img src='http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Had a quick look for my other char, a prot warrior, same thing.. The only place I could find where there were a bit to play around with was after I had spent 31 points in prot and could move to other trees.. sigh&#8230;<br />
More info and more development please! <img src='http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Moonra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moonra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally got a website with the trees that my browser can handle and voila, after 15secs I regret putting time into it.

I didn&#039;t even bother checking feral or balance... will wait for a couple of Beta updates before I take a decent look

I liked the huge tree&#039;s we had before better, these 31point thingies don&#039;t give us much room to play with different talents...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally got a website with the trees that my browser can handle and voila, after 15secs I regret putting time into it.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even bother checking feral or balance&#8230; will wait for a couple of Beta updates before I take a decent look</p>
<p>I liked the huge tree&#8217;s we had before better, these 31point thingies don&#8217;t give us much room to play with different talents&#8230;<br />
<span class="cluv"> Moonra´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Restodude/~3/TjwIsSp8m3U/being-healer-good-and-bad.html" rel="nofollow">Being a Healer- the Good and the Bad-</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://treebarkjacket.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, they&#039;re a big mess, and it&#039;s likely unintended that they are sitting there.

I hope they fix us up soon, it&#039;s frustrating to know the direction the talent trees are going in, but knowing ours are wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, they&#8217;re a big mess, and it&#8217;s likely unintended that they are sitting there.</p>
<p>I hope they fix us up soon, it&#8217;s frustrating to know the direction the talent trees are going in, but knowing ours are wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: treebranch</title>
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		<dc:creator>treebranch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but if you respec at 80 you’ll lose Swiftmend, you only get it back if you then spec at least 20 in the resto tree again&quot;

Blue posts &quot;31 points must be spent in the primary specialization tree before any points can be placed in additional trees.&quot;

If we get swiftmend at level 10 by putting 1 point in the resto tree that one point will force us to put another 30 points in the resto tree before even thinking about the other 2 trees so healers will get swiftmend no matter what. The fact that its showing up as a talent point further down the new beta calculators shows the calculators and the blue posts aren&#039;t on the same page so to speak. So basically we are totally clueless to what things will actually look like in Cataclysm

When I levelled balance I put 2 points in the resto tree for improved mark of the wild, not sure if it was worth it but it was nice to have a choice in hybrid builds while levelling at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but if you respec at 80 you’ll lose Swiftmend, you only get it back if you then spec at least 20 in the resto tree again&#8221;</p>
<p>Blue posts &#8220;31 points must be spent in the primary specialization tree before any points can be placed in additional trees.&#8221;</p>
<p>If we get swiftmend at level 10 by putting 1 point in the resto tree that one point will force us to put another 30 points in the resto tree before even thinking about the other 2 trees so healers will get swiftmend no matter what. The fact that its showing up as a talent point further down the new beta calculators shows the calculators and the blue posts aren&#8217;t on the same page so to speak. So basically we are totally clueless to what things will actually look like in Cataclysm</p>
<p>When I levelled balance I put 2 points in the resto tree for improved mark of the wild, not sure if it was worth it but it was nice to have a choice in hybrid builds while levelling at least.</p>
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