Haste break points for Druid HoTs
Are you still a bit confused about haste in 4.0 (and in Cataclysm)? Soft caps and HoT break points too much to wrap your head around? I can help! I have tables!
Haste in Wrath of the Lich King
Our old goal with haste was to reduce our GCD down to 1.0sec. This was fairly easy to achieve with attainable gear and talents, but in 4.0 (and Cataclysm) we have lost our haste talents, and Blizzard wants haste “caps” to be harder to reach, so that we can’t simply put on a few standard pieces of gear, choose a couple of talents, and be done with haste. By making haste caps harder to reach, it means that collecting more haste will always be attractive; before, there was little point in going past the soft cap because after reaching the 1.0s GCD, haste was of little use to us as a HoT-centric class.
Haste going forward
To reach a 1.0s GCD, you need 50% haste. That’s 1640 haste rating without a 5% raid buff, or about 1406 (42.87%) with the buff. This is a stretch at current levels of gear, so we won’t be hitting the 1.0sec GCD as easily. In Cataclysm we will also be using direct healing spells more than we did in WotLK, and this means that we can keep collecting haste without it becoming useless, because the bar has been set higher – even past the soft cap, haste will still be useful for us.
But haste also has a new value for us – it speeds up our HoT ticks. However, instead of shortening the duration (like the old Glyph of Rapid Rejuvenation did), at certain points of haste, “break points”, it adds extra ticks into your standard duration. So for example, if you reach 37.5% haste, your Rejuvenation will have two extra ticks, because it has reached two break points.
Now, luckily, things are a bit simpler now, with the revamp of Gift of the Earthmother, removal of Celestial Focus, and changes to raid haste buffs so that you can only ever have 5% (not 3%, 5%, 3%+5%). You’ll have haste from your gear, and you’ll either have 5% from a Moonkin, a Shadow Priest, or a Shaman.. or you won’t have it. Easy!
Resto Druid HoT break points
Here are the break points for our various HoTs, so you can see the milestones you would need to reach in order to add the next extra tick. I’ve put values for characters with 5% raid buffs and without – if you can generally count on one of the above classes to give you the 5%, then you can go for the lower value. If you don’t often have those players around, then you should aim for the higher value to ensure that you get your extra ticks.
The yellow cells represent the spot that we should aim for, or will probably be sitting at (if we aim for 1016 haste for maximising Rejuvenation).
The numbers along the top, of course, represent extra ticks on top of the standard number of ticks for each HoT. So “1″ is 1 extra tick, “2″ is 2 extra ticks.
| Rejuvenation |
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
| Break points – without 5% buff |
12.50%
|
37.50%
|
62.50%
|
87.50%
|
| Break points – with 5% buff |
7.14%
|
30.95%
|
54.76%
|
78.57%
|
| Rating required – without 5% buff |
410
|
1230
|
2049
|
2869
|
| Rating required – with 5% buff |
234
|
1015
|
1796
|
2576
|
| Regrowth |
1
|
2
|
3
|
| Break points – without 5% buff |
16.67%
|
50%
|
83.33%
|
| Break points – with 5% buff |
11.11%
|
42.86%
|
74.60%
|
| Rating required – without 5% buff |
546
|
1640
|
2732
|
| Rating required – with 5% buff |
364
|
1405
|
2446
|
| Lifebloom |
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
| Break points – without 5% buff |
5%
|
15%
|
25%
|
35%
|
45%
|
55%
|
| Break points – with 5% buff |
0%
|
9.52%
|
19.05%
|
28.57%
|
38.10%
|
47.62%
|
| Rating required – without 5% buff |
164
|
492
|
820
|
1148
|
1476
|
1803
|
| Rating required – with 5% buff |
0
|
312
|
625
|
937
|
1249
|
1561
|
| Wild Growth |
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
| Break points – without 5% buff |
7.15%
|
21.43%
|
35.72%
|
50%
|
64.29%
|
78.57%
|
| Break points – with 5% buff |
2.05%
|
15.65%
|
29.25%
|
42.86%
|
56.46%
|
70.07%
|
| Rating required – without 5% buff |
234
|
703
|
1171
|
1640
|
2108
|
2576
|
| Rating required – with 5% buff |
67
|
513
|
959
|
1405
|
1851
|
2297
|
Now, due to rounding, it may be best to tack on an extra value of 1 – to ensure you get that extra tick. For example, the 37.5% break point for 2 extra ticks of Rejuvenation is 1015, but for some reason some people don’t get the extra tick unless they go to 1016 (which is why 1016 is usually the number that most guides will give you to aim for). If you add an extra point, you can’t go wrong.
I’ve chopped off the ticks from 7 onwards, purely because of lack of space – and because it’s unlikely that anyone will be reaching 50% haste in the next few weeks!
Once again, another tip of the cap to Type “H” For Heals. Go there for much more eloquent and attractive lessons on HoT break points (with graphs!). Want to play around with your stats? Grab Hamlet’s TreeCalcs spreadsheet, plug in your info, and check the HoTs tab to see what you get.
Hope this helps you if you were still confused.
I’ll be posting the same tables for level 85 in my new Cataclysm guide soon.
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about 1 year ago
I guess this will influence as well when we ‘refresh’ our hots. When you have 1016 haste (and the buff) you can let rejuv fall of before you renew it, but when you have more (or less), then you can actually refresh it already just before it falls off. Not that it’s THAT important, but still something to think about. Basically, when your rejuvenation doesn’t do anything anymore during the last 1-2 seconds, it’s prolly worth it to refresh already.
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about 1 year ago
/lick
Thanks for the recap! My brain was messed up with all the caps.
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about 1 year ago
> To reach a 1.0s GCD, you need 50% haste
Hmm for some reason I thought it’s 33%
And why do we need only 42.87% with 5% buff?
about 1 year ago
It’s not 42.86 + 5%, it’s multiplied:
1.4286 x 1.05 = 1.50 = +50% haste
(this is the point where I regret posting anything with numbers in it because I’m so bad at math and even worse at trying to explain it)
about 1 year ago
Thanks for the summary and braving the world of math to explain everything.
about 1 year ago
It’s funny that you’re posting this
I’m actually working on a program that does all the thinking for you but I’m a bit unsure about the whole math
this post will deff help me but…
quote “(this is the point where I regret posting anything with numbers in it because I’m so bad at math and even worse at trying to explain it)”
Sorry that I’m asking this :p
does the do that for every haste buff? for example heroism would be like this:
Moonra has 916 haste
916/32.79=27.94
so for hero it would be 1.2794*1.3=1.66322 or 66.32%?
believe me this is simple compared to trying to get all of this in visual basic… deff with my knowlegde of visual basic lol
anyhow thnkx for the topic, you made me realise that I’m wrong and that I’ll have to rebuild the whole thing this evening hehe… (can’t allows mistakes)
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about 1 year ago
Yep, you’re right Moonra, it’s *1.3 for Heroism.
about 1 year ago
/sigh… my head will hurt this evening…
thnkx for the quick response!
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about 1 year ago
Thanks for those tables, that’s really helpful to see them all up like that! I’ll be looking forward to seeing the ones for 85 as well
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about 1 year ago
With a measly 738 for haste I’m wondering if I should reforge for haste or mastery? What stat should get reforged? Spirit?
about 1 year ago
Ooh, good to know. I was playing around with reforging, so I made myself similar tables to see if I was close to a cap, but I didn’t realize the 5% raid buff was multiplicative. I was gonna ask why our unbuffed numbers looked the same, while your table showed lower requirements than mine when buffed, but you’d already answered
That is pretty crazy though… the more haste you have, the more haste rating that 5% is equivalent to? Not intuitive in my mind. I wonder why they didn’t make it additive?
about 1 year ago
Sorry for the double post, but I thought I’d respond to LXj since I thought the same thing until I started working on my own table:
>> To reach a 1.0s GCD, you need 50% haste
>Hmm for some reason I thought it’s 33%
Sadly, haste % isn’t the % reduction in cast time, it’s the % of extra spells you can cast in a fixed amount of time. For example, with 0% haste, you can cast 40 rejuv’s in a minute. To get down to 1 second global cooldowns you would fit 60 into a minute, or 50% more casts. This is where the 50% comes from to reach the minimum global cooldown.
From wowpedia.org:
New Casting Time = Base Casting Time / (1 + %Spell Haste/100)
If spell haste were actually % reduction in cast time, if you managed to twink to 100% haste you would have instant cast Healing Touches.
about 1 year ago
Yep tkc – reforge spirit. We have plenty of regen at the moment.
Geros: I added the 5% at first too!
about 1 year ago
Ok, going to show my stupidity. I added 3 haste gems yesterday to bring mine up to 15%+ and that was basically unbuffed. I would have liked to played with it more but my cable company has had some serious problems and went down before I could do anything. Anyway, what is the cap unbuffed and did I do the right thing? You can check me out at the armory… only one on Burning Legion with that name. Anything else you see wrong, let me know. Got nothing but time..
about 1 year ago
It’s late here, I’m just heading to bed, but I’ll get back to you tomorrow
about 1 year ago
“we won’t be hitting the 1.0sec GCD as easily”
I’d like to vote for this as understatement of the year!
about 1 year ago
Great post as always Keeva. The tables were super helpful. Much appreciated!
about 1 year ago
So when does crit become more important than haste? or should i just keep stacking haste? i have about 2k now, but im planning on respeccing for rejuv and not using nourish as much. should i keep all the haste? or reforge to crit?
about 1 year ago
Heya,
Thanks so much for laying out everything so nicely! I’m a bit confused tho, and this is probably just me being a noob, but can’t you still have and added 5% and 3% haste buff if a boomkin/spriest/shammy is present and a warlock is casting Dark Intent on you? I’m truly not trying to be a smart ass, just confused as to why this hasn’t been brought up in any of the haste breakpt discussions I’ve been reading and also if there is any other buff I should be watching out for similar to Dark Intent as I madly gem/reforge. Thanks again!
about 1 year ago
Hi Moobster, Reforged – this info isn’t up to date anymore, it’s the level 80 numbers.
Here’s the new info:
http://restodruid.info/stats-2/stat-priorities/#haste
And yes you can have Dark Intent on top of the 5%, but will you be able to count on it 100% of the time? If not, and you reforge, then you’re going to be missing out on that breakpoint. So generally speaking I advise people to aim for the breakpoint allowing for 5%, but not to count on the extra 3% on top.
about 1 year ago
Thx for the quick response and info!!
about 1 year ago
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about 10 months ago
thanks alot for this. Nice job